Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

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Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by RonCo » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:11 pm

Here's the place to talk about the career of:

Bob Sanderson

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JAWS: 17.3 (15)
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HOF Standards: 57 (50)
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# Cue up the reliever argument. Bottom line, when Bob Sanderson was at his peak (which he was for most of his career in Huntsville, he was one of the most dominant pitchers on the planet. At issue, perhaps, is that he was not always at his peak (which was the case for most of his career outside Huntsville, the exception being his stellar 2034 season in Montreal.

A torn labrum hit in 2035, and though his career sputters along for a few seasons, that was essentially the end.

His HoF Metrics are all over the road, JAWS and Standards saying he's in, the inks saying he falls considerably behind. Which kind of makes sense, I suppose. The pre-30-yo Sanderson was brilliant, the post 30, not so much. His 483 career saves place him at #9 all-time, a single save behind Paul Hogan, Chris Malone, and Juan Qunitaro.

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by Ted » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:21 pm

Just kind of fell of a cliff at 30, as you mentioned. Not a good plan for getting into the HOF. Makes it impossible as a reliever.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by bcslouck » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:50 pm

This is a close one. I'll have to look more.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by indiansfan » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:03 pm

There are several much better relievers not in the hall.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by 7teen » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:45 pm

Not even close in my book. Only 1 Egan award? Nope.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by usnspecialist » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:33 am

Here is the stat breakdown of Bob Sanderson compared to all relief pitchers (both individually and against the total mean). Players are sorted by total JAWS score, and any bolded names are on the HOF ballot this year. The mean listed does NOT include anyone on the ballot, just guys who have actually been elected to the HOF.
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League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by RonCo » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:22 pm

Sanderson received 19% of the vote last year. He has 6 seasons left on the ballot.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by RonCo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:14 pm

After reaching as high as 30%, Sanderson dropped to 17% last season. He has four years left on the ballot.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by aaronweiner » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:15 pm

Part of a lot of great teams at his peak.

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by usnspecialist » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:17 pm

Bumping to discuss the candidacy of Bob Sanderson. Voting history and positional comparison available in first post.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by usnspecialist » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:01 pm

bumping for candidate discussion
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by bcslouck » Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:51 am

I think I've been a no on him and think I will stay that way.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by CTBrewCrew » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:36 pm

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Bob Sanderson

Post by CTBrewCrew » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:22 pm

Pass again
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