Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

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Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

Post by RonCo » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:40 pm

Here's the place to talk about the career of: Juan Jose Ornelas
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HOF Standards: 37 (49)
HOF Monitor: 124 (125)
# Combined with Nelson Ramirez, Ornelas made the match to one of the most powerful 1-2 duos in the league for many years. Led the league in wins in 2022, and 2031, and in WAR in 2028 and 2031. A graceful athlete, he could also field his position, which is often an under-appreciated talent.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Jaun Jose Ornelas

Post by bcslouck » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:38 pm

He's close for sure.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

Post by 7teen » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:00 pm

Some very very good players for discussion for sure.

I'm starting to think I'm more picky than most. I prefer small halls over larger ones.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

Post by RonCo » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:09 pm

For my sensibilities, of the two Birmingham/San Antonio guys, Nelson Ramirez has the stronger case.

I like that we're getting to guys I actually lived with a bit, though.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

Post by bcslouck » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:10 pm

I think he's close, but he'll be down on my list with all the players coming up. The HOF metrics are pretty good, but some of the counting stats aren't the best. Hall of Very Good more than likely.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

Post by scottsdale_joe » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:40 pm

I think maybe not.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

Post by 7teen » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:25 pm

scottsdale_joe wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:40 pm
I think maybe not.
I feel like I've gotten my 300+ post count taken care of for the 2036 season today.....
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

Post by scottsdale_joe » Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:18 pm

7teen wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:25 pm
scottsdale_joe wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:40 pm
I think maybe not.
I feel like I've gotten my 300+ post count taken care of for the 2036 season today.....
:dancefool:
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

Post by RonCo » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:28 pm

7teen wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:25 pm
scottsdale_joe wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:40 pm
I think maybe not.
I feel like I've gotten my 300+ post count taken care of for the 2036 season today.....
Only about 13%.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Juan Jose Ornelas

Post by usnspecialist » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:11 am

the pitching version of mike love for me. Thought long and hard but voted no this time around. Could change in the future though.
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