Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Nelson Ramirez

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Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Nelson Ramirez

Post by RonCo » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:23 pm

Here's the place to talk about the career of:

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Active Career: 2020-2034 (15 seasons)
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JAWS: 58.4 (72)
Black Ink: 66 (34)
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HOF Standards: 40 (49)
HOF Monitor: 111 (125)
# Nelson Ramirez was a meance to hitters for twelve seasons in the Brimingham/San Antonio franchise before a torn flexor tendon put a stop to things in 2033. He tried to come back, but the slider never quite slid the same way. Three Nebraskas say it all, though...and despite a bit lower wincount than some other candidates, his HoF Metrics give a pretty strong case for him.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Nelson Ramirez

Post by bigmike13 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:29 pm

Try not to be too harsh on his low win count, he played for some shitty offensive teams in San Antonio and I should know :bag:
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Nelson Ramirez

Post by bcslouck » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:40 pm

bigmike13 wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:29 pm
Try not to be too harsh on his low win count, he played for some shitty offensive teams in San Antonio and I should know :bag:
I'm not. Metrics aren't quite there and the wins aren't. But he won 3 Nebraska's and was a top pitcher for a long time. Didn't last as long as some and the fall was quick. But to me, he's in.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Nelson Ramirez

Post by 7teen » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:59 am

bcslouck wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:40 pm
bigmike13 wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:29 pm
Try not to be too harsh on his low win count, he played for some shitty offensive teams in San Antonio and I should know :bag:
I'm not. Metrics aren't quite there and the wins aren't. But he won 3 Nebraska's and was a top pitcher for a long time. Didn't last as long as some and the fall was quick. But to me, he's in.
I can understand the logic and if he were my guy (Jessie Wright) I'd argue yes. But because of that and the precedence we have on this I have to vote no.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Nelson Ramirez

Post by scottsdale_joe » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:42 pm

Eh, maybe. Probably not.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Nelson Ramirez

Post by RonCo » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:43 am

Bumping for continued eligibility. Ramirez received 53% of the vote last season.
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