Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Manuel Ramirez

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Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Manuel Ramirez

Post by RonCo » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:27 pm

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Discussion Thread: Manuel Ramirez

Post by scottsdale_joe » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:35 pm

No one with more wins is not in.
Automatic.
Get him a plaque.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Discussion Thread: Manuel Ramirez

Post by usnspecialist » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:10 pm

scottsdale_joe wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:35 pm
No one with more wins is not in.
Automatic.
Get him a plaque.
Wins are one of the worst metrics to measure a pitcher by (although they do mean more over a career than individual season. That being said, Ramirez is an easy yes.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Discussion Thread: Manuel Ramirez

Post by bcslouck » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:46 pm

usnspecialist wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:10 pm
Wins are one of the worst metrics to measure a pitcher by (although they do mean more over a career than individual season. That being said, Ramirez is an easy yes.
I understand why people have this view, but I kind of hate it. Last time I checked, wins matter. I certainly won't vote for a pitcher in any way just because of wins, but it should mean something.

All that said, I agree with you both of you. He's in.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Discussion Thread: Manuel Ramirez

Post by scottsdale_joe » Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:40 am

bcslouck wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:46 pm
usnspecialist wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:10 pm
Wins are one of the worst metrics to measure a pitcher by (although they do mean more over a career than individual season. That being said, Ramirez is an easy yes.
I understand why people have this view, but I kind of hate it. Last time I checked, wins matter. I certainly won't vote for a pitcher in any way just because of wins, but it should mean something.
I hate it too.
I will say no more on this subject.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Manuel Ramirez

Post by 7teen » Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:40 am

He's in. He's 10th all-time in wins. That alone gets him in. 13th all time in Ks and 23rd all-time in pitcher WAR. That's solid enough as well.
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