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Manuel "Eyechart" Ramirez
Starting Pitcher
Active Career: 2018-2035 (18 seasons)
245-130, 3.29 ERA, 3381 K, 85.2 WAR
Landis Champion: 2019
2022 Nebraska Award
6-Time All-Star
Hall of Fame Metrics: (average HoF)
JAWS: 65.7 (72)
Black Ink: 17 (34)
Gray Ink: 182 (162)
HOF Standards: 57 (49)
HOF Monitor: 147 (125)
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Mainstay of the New Orleans Crawdads in the meat of their most glorious run of post season appearances. His teams won their division 5 times in his 11 Crawdad seasons, and was second 5 more. In addition to winning the Nebraska once, he was in the top three in voting two additional times. Finished his career with successful stints in Long Beach, Vancouver, and Jacksonville.
Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Manuel Ramirez
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Discussion Thread: Manuel Ramirez
No one with more wins is not in.
Automatic.
Get him a plaque.
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Get him a plaque.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Discussion Thread: Manuel Ramirez
Wins are one of the worst metrics to measure a pitcher by (although they do mean more over a career than individual season. That being said, Ramirez is an easy yes.scottsdale_joe wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:35 pmNo one with more wins is not in.
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Get him a plaque.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Discussion Thread: Manuel Ramirez
I understand why people have this view, but I kind of hate it. Last time I checked, wins matter. I certainly won't vote for a pitcher in any way just because of wins, but it should mean something.usnspecialist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:10 pmWins are one of the worst metrics to measure a pitcher by (although they do mean more over a career than individual season. That being said, Ramirez is an easy yes.
All that said, I agree with you both of you. He's in.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Discussion Thread: Manuel Ramirez
I hate it too.bcslouck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:46 pmI understand why people have this view, but I kind of hate it. Last time I checked, wins matter. I certainly won't vote for a pitcher in any way just because of wins, but it should mean something.usnspecialist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:10 pmWins are one of the worst metrics to measure a pitcher by (although they do mean more over a career than individual season. That being said, Ramirez is an easy yes.
I will say no more on this subject.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Thread: Manuel Ramirez
He's in. He's 10th all-time in wins. That alone gets him in. 13th all time in Ks and 23rd all-time in pitcher WAR. That's solid enough as well.
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