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Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:31 pm
by RonCo
Here's the place to talk about the career of: Benjamin Franklin Pierce
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Active Career: 2016-2032 (16 seasons)
2,042 hits, 213 HR, 872 RBI, 379 SB, .272/.354/.412 WAR: 54.5
Landis Memorial Ring: 2031
Charles Pucket GOlden Bat Award
2-Time Zimmer Diamond Glove Award
5-Time All-Star (Landis Series MVP)

Hall of Fame Metrics: (average HoF)
JAWS: 47.1 (58)
Black Ink: 8 (22)
Gray Ink: 47 (105)
HOF Standards: 34 (53)
HOF Monitor: 48 (123)
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Pierce was a brilliant 5-tool player in his prime, who broke in with Yellow Springs and played with six franchises. Interesting candidate with three superior WAR seasons (leading the league twice while at a key position), but a two-tiered fall-off that ended in his last four seasons being unremarkable.

Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:39 am
by bcslouck
He had 3 great years which don’t count for a quarter of his career. Also seems telling that he didn’t win the Silk in those years. Even at his best, he wasn’t considered the best. Good player. Not HOF.

Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:18 am
by Ted
Very similar to Felix in that he had some (even more) terrific years in the beginning, then flamed out really quickly.

Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:54 am
by scottsdale_joe
Nope.

Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:19 am
by RonCo
I fhe'd played another 3-4 seasons in Yellow Springs I could see putting him in our Hall...but probably not in the big one.

Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:36 am
by scottsdale_joe
RonCo wrote:I fhe'd played another 3-4 seasons in Yellow Springs I could see putting him in our Hall...but probably not in the big one.
Agreed.
Team HOFs should have much less demanding standards.
I put one guy in Mounties HOF who clearly shouldn't be there.

(Maybe you think more than one) :)

I did it just for the sake of Mounties HOF controversy.
I think of everything . . . sometimes . . . or occasionally.

Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:09 pm
by bcslouck
Yeah, agreed. Brian Whitten (on phone so no link) my go into our team HOF simply for being our first expansion pick and being an All-Star for us.

Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:48 pm
by RonCo
Bumping these threads because there will be voting again earlier than you think!

Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:48 pm
by RonCo
I'm all for putting guys in your team HoF for any reason you want, really. A HoF is a museum, basically, and a team HoF even moreso. For example--I'd debate putting my assistant GM Tim Sumner in the YS9 HoF for his outstanding work in developing our Coffee Delivery System. :) If I did that, the team HoF plaque would have to link back to the whole story line of incompetence that preceded it, and maybe even Stephen's post about it.

But Pierce. Still a no for me on second review.

Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:50 pm
by starfox64
Nope.