Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Brian Middleton

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Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Brian Middleton

Post by RonCo » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:20 pm

Here's the place to talk about the career of: Brian Middleton
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Active Career: 2008-2022 (15 seasons)
171-148, 3.76 ERA, 2,608 K, WAR: 48.1
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Hall of Fame Metrics: (average HoF)
JAWS: 40.4 (61)
Black Ink: 32 (34)
Gray Ink: 117 (162)
HOF Standards: 32 (49)
HOF Monitor: 54 (125)

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Middleton spent his entire career with Valencia. From age 25-30 he was a feared pitcher, racking up 70 wins and 31 WAR and helping the franchise to several playoff appearances. He was a workhorse, and led the league with 266 and 273 IP in 2011 and 2014. Led the league in Wins in 2013, in ERA in 2014. An all around solid pitcher for a lot of years.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Brian Middleton

Post by scottsdale_joe » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:35 pm

I love one team guys.
Love all those IPs
Love all those WHIPs close to 1.00

But I think not.
The degradation in second half of career keeps him out.

[edit] - Rethinking this one. The degradation is mostly in wins and losses. Still throwing lots of innings. Still some good WHIPs. Maybe
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Brian Middleton

Post by bpbrooksy » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:55 pm

A no for me.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Brian Middleton

Post by JimBob2232 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:18 am

bpbrooksy wrote:A no for me.
Pass for me too.

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Brian Middleton

Post by RonCo » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:24 pm

Bumping these threads because there will be voting again earlier than you think!
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Brian Middleton

Post by bcslouck » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:30 pm

Not enough counting stats. He would of had a shot if he got to 200 wins (yeah, I know what people think about wins these days, blah, blah, blah..).
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Brian Middleton

Post by RonCo » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:25 pm

Middleton was a solid guy for one of those perennial 88 win playoff teams. If he'd been with, say, Vegas during that streak maybe he'd have made his 200 wins, but maybe not. Looking through his teams as he played, he looks like he was a staff ace in his early/mid-20s, but by the time he was into his 30s he was "just" one of the upper range guys. He's got kind of a Fergie Jenkins kind of vibe in that he gave up the longball, but kept guys off the basepath. I love winning with these kinds of guys, but right now I'm a learn toward no.

Any idea if his ballpark influenced things?
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Brian Middleton

Post by starfox64 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:48 pm

As Randy Jackson would say, it's a no from me dawg. Only four seasons with a league/park adjusted ERA more than 25% better than league average, and no big counting stats. Doesn't cut it for me.

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