Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

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Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by RonCo » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:05 pm

Here's the place to talk about the career of: Kal El
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Black Ink: 7 (22)
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HOF Standards: 52 (53)
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by recte44 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:24 pm

Through age 27, a definite Hall of Famer. His career after that was solid but unspectacular. Still, I think he's more deserving of a look than he's gotten thus far.

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by Ted » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:26 pm

Just wasn't good enough long enough. Sad the Superman wasn't as super after his early 20's
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by RonCo » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:31 pm

Outstanding platoon player, as I recall, but used as a full-time guy. Might have OPSed .950 as a platoon guy. Again, though, I was just getting into the league when I was looking at him.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by bigmike13 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:40 am

When he was with us in Birmingham, he was a deadly combination with Dexter Sheehan. Even if he is considered an "Average HOF", that's still HOF material. Let's not use his last few years as a capsule of his entire career. He will be getting his plaque and banner at the Tap Room HOF very shortly.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by scottsdale_joe » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:47 am

Thinking a definite no.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by bpbrooksy » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:41 pm

I think it's a no for me. Multi-time All-Star, but his Silk year was his only really standout season in my mind. Maybe a bit harsh, but I usually vote with pretty strict standards.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by RonCo » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:18 pm

Bumping these threads because there will be voting again earlier than you think!
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by bcslouck » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:23 pm

Leaning no.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by RonCo » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:22 am

Looking at Kal El more closely, I come down on "no." When I came into the league it felt like he had the aura around him--and I rated him really highly. But he was never as good as I thought he should be. He was getting older then, though. taking a deeper dive lets me see a little of why the aura exists. He was blazingly good in 2015 and 2016 (when he won the silk). I mean, anti-kryptonite good. Startlingly good.

However, take those two years away, or make the just solid 4 WAR years, and there's not even a discussion.

Good player to have around. Not ranked high on my ballot.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by 7teen » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:35 pm

Its a hard no for me. Just don't think the counting stats or there were enough seasons strung together to justify him being a HOF. Just a good player.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by RonCo » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:52 am

Kal El received 21% of last year's ballots.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by JimBob2232 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:45 pm

borderline...im thinking no.

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by RonCo » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:09 pm

Kal El received 38% of the votes last year. He has 3 seasons left on the ballot.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by indiansfan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:38 pm

I don't think so, but need to take another look. One of those guys that has a better shot if we have a weaker class that year.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by niles08 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:09 am

Had he been better for longer, it would be a yes. But it's a no from me.
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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by usnspecialist » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:55 am

Here is the stat breakdown of Kal El compared to all center fielders (both individually and against the total mean). Players are sorted by total JAWS score, and any bolded names are on the HOF ballot this year. The mean listed does NOT include anyone on the ballot, just guys who have actually been elected to the HOF.
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League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by JimBob2232 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:56 am

I'm hoping he makes it as a hitting coach...

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Re: Hall of Fame Candidate Tread: Kal El

Post by RonCo » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:27 pm

This is Kal El's last remaining year of eligibility. He received 29% of the vote last year.
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