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PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:35 pm 
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Will Salazar and Moreno Ever Happen?

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When you think about the 2032 Brooklyn Robins, many phrases come to mind. "Singles Hitters", "Stolen Base Attempts", "Pitching Platoon", "Over Achievers". One phrase that doesn't come up that often, if ever, is "Power Hitters". But with the recent acquisition of Fernando Moreno (7/5/10/8/6 Ratings, .238/.323/.509, 37 HR, 87 RBI), Brooklyn has two of the most prolific power hitters in the BBA. Moreno and long time Robin Enrique Salazar (7/5/9/5/7 Ratings, .304/.379/.571, 22 HR, 70 RBI) have combined to hit 642 homeruns. That would be solid even if their careers were coming to an end, but these two slugger are still in the prime of their careers. Moreno just turned 30 and Salazar is still getting started at 27. While one can not predict what the future holds, saying that they will both hit 500+ before all is said and done is reasonable.

The thought of having two big time power hitters beefing up their HR totals for the next 6-8 is very enticing. But can Brooklyn keep them together that long? Taking things one step further... will they ever step on the field in blue and white pinstripes at the same time? Moreno was acquired, in large part, because Salazar went down with a broken hand. Enrique was the teams only true power threat and with him out of the lineup the Robins didn't have that guy to drive in all the singles hitters. Things were so bad that Holden Blackwell (9/6/3/3/10 Ratings, .355/.409/.439, 4 HR, 61 RBI) was batting cleanup. Holden is a great hitter but looked ridiculously out of place in the four hole. Have you ever seen a cleanup hitter with 4 HR and 92 Stolen Bases? Yeah, very odd. So the Robins brought in Moreno to essentially fill Salazar's role for the stretch run as they play David to Jacksonville's Goliath.

The big question now as the Robins have officially fallen outside of the playoff bubble (at least temporarily) is.... Will Salazar and Moreno actually happen? Salazar is due to come off the DL almost exactly the same time the season ends. Maybe one day earlier, maybe later if rehab is needed or if there are set backs. Both players are free agents after the season. Brooklyn has already showed some disinterest in paying Salazar long term just to be a DH. Chances are they may feel similar about Moreno. Though that is just speculation at this point. In any event, the odds of them bringing both back is 2. Slim and None. Looking at their finances, the Robins would probably have a tough time bringing only one back. Both would take some miracle work.

So realistically, it's playoffs or bust for the dynamic duo. If the Robins do manage to sneak in the playoffs, opponents will have to face a deadly lineup(possibly best 1-4 in BBA?) that has yet to be seen. Though if Brooklyn fails to advance to the second season. They wasted a lot of money and a few decent pitching prospects and all they got was this lousy article and some Moreno/Salazar t-shirts on the clearance rack of the team store.

Brooklyn lineup if they make playoffs and stay healthy.
1. Antonio Valentin (9/7/2/4/10 Ratings, .331/.376/.433, 0 HR, 26 RBI)
2. Holden Blackwell (9/6/3/3/10 Ratings, .355/.409/.439, 4 HR, 61 RBI)
3. Fernando Moreno (7/5/10/8/6 Ratings, .238/.323/.509, 37 HR, 87 RBI)
4. Enrique Salazar (7/5/9/5/7 Ratings, .304/.379/.571, 22 HR, 70 RBI)
5. Francisco Flores (6/7/6/6/6 Ratings, .327/.411/.531, 7 HR, 24 RBI)
6. Luis Soto (7/4/7/5/10 Ratings, .339/.377/.496, 17 HR, 60 RBI)
7. Henry Rectenberg (7/6/7/7/6 Ratings, .246/.339/.404, 8 HR, 32 RBI)
8. Sean Smith (7/8/6/5/5 Ratings, .257/.315/.416, 7 HR, 37 RBI)
9. Tony Gustafsen (7/6/1/4/8 Ratings, .293/.319/.380, 1 HR, 45 RBI)

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The Robins roll the dice.

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It's been a fun season. Your JLA predictions, the media guide and the reports preseason predictions all had us losing 90+ games. We may be putting our chip in, but we're also playing with house money at this point anyway.

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Perhaps GM of the Year material there.

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Nah. There are a lot of really good GM's in the Johnson. Brandon, Joshua and Randy made huge improvements to their team. Then there are the perennials like Recte, John and Tyler. Might be an interesting vote this year. Of those 6 I'm not sure who I'd vote for.

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ae37jr wrote:
Nah. There are a lot of really good GM's in the Johnson. Brandon, Joshua and Randy made huge improvements to their team. Then there are the perennials like Recte, John and Tyler. Might be an interesting vote this year. Of those 6 I'm not sure who I'd vote for.


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ae37jr wrote:
Nah. There are a lot of really good GM's in the Johnson. Brandon, Joshua and Randy made huge improvements to their team. Then there are the perennials like Recte, John and Tyler. Might be an interesting vote this year. Of those 6 I'm not sure who I'd vote for.

Good move picking up Moreno (whether or not you knew it, you ensured he didn't go to your direct rival)

With me and GMOTY, I don't think any GM would ever go from winning the championship to possibly not in the playoffs and win any kind of award.

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ae37jr wrote:
Nah. There are a lot of really good GM's in the Johnson. Brandon, Joshua and Randy made huge improvements to their team. Then there are the perennials like Recte, John and Tyler. Might be an interesting vote this year. Of those 6 I'm not sure who I'd vote for.

Good move picking up Moreno (whether or not you knew it, you ensured he didn't go to your direct rival)

With me and GMOTY, I don't think any GM would ever go from winning the championship to possibly not in the playoffs and win any kind of award.


there was actually a 3rd team who was ahead of you in line (I wont name them, but if they want to name themselves they are obviously welcome to). They were actually ahead of Brooklyn but Moreno not willing to talk extension had them change their offer which slid Brooklyn ahead.

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That sucks for the 3rd team then because he's willing to sign an extension with us. It's somewhat reasonable too. 6 years $104 mil(17-18 per). So basically what he is making now. In acquiring him I had zero intentions of resigning him because I figured he was either unwilling to talk or wanted an outrageous amount. I'm still leaning toward not resigning him. I feel as if the last two years may be the start of the decline. From my experience, power hitters generally are quicker to fall. I may offer him arbitration and if he's willing to sign a short term deal could go that route. From an asset management position, my best bet would be to let Salazar walk this year(maybe get draft compensation) and bring Moreno back on a short deal and then let him go and get compensation. But honestly, I think I'd rather let them both go and use that money to improve other areas.

You know, I was wrongfully certain that there was no other teams realistically in on Moreno. After I saw the Huntsville trade, a light bulb went on in my head I said to myself.....

a)There is no way Randy wants Moreno on the team. He has been actively trying to dump salaries all year and having that kind of bat would kill his draft positioning.
b)There were only 4 other contending teams with significant cap space.(YS9, LB, CAL, CGY) Any other team would have to shuffle a lot of contracts that would devalue the deal.
c)Of 4 said teams with cap space, I felt none of them would go hard. YS9 and CAL are more about sustained long term success and LB and CGY already have 1B/DH well covered.

Brooklyn felt like the only logical fit to me. We have the cap space and have been saving some budget room for the right situation. A power hitting 1B is one of our 2 biggest needs(SP the other). His popularity(along with the Crunchy claim) has allowed us to raise ticket prices significantly and still sell out the house. Now knowing that other teams really were involved, I think the deal could have fallen apart easily. I was dead set on not giving up anyone who I had any plans for. Though I did cave a little on Subadio to get the deal done. Gibson was serviceable but in his last option year. I really had no plans for Cruz.

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YS9 would have dealt value for Moreno if he could have fixed our 3B injury situation. But alas, that was not to be the case. :)

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usnspecialist wrote:
udlb58 wrote:
ae37jr wrote:
Nah. There are a lot of really good GM's in the Johnson. Brandon, Joshua and Randy made huge improvements to their team. Then there are the perennials like Recte, John and Tyler. Might be an interesting vote this year. Of those 6 I'm not sure who I'd vote for.

Good move picking up Moreno (whether or not you knew it, you ensured he didn't go to your direct rival)

With me and GMOTY, I don't think any GM would ever go from winning the championship to possibly not in the playoffs and win any kind of award.


there was actually a 3rd team who was ahead of you in line (I wont name them, but if they want to name themselves they are obviously welcome to). They were actually ahead of Brooklyn but Moreno not willing to talk extension had them change their offer which slid Brooklyn ahead.

Well, to be fair; had I not been a good sport and made you aware of the fact that you had time to sit back and field some offers, I could have had Moreno for much less than you got from Brooklyn. (as a thank you, all you need to do is win more than you lose against BRO/SA/NO the rest of the way ;) )

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YS9 would have dealt value for Moreno if he could have fixed our 3B injury situation. But alas, that was not to be the case. :)

Well, you could have played him at 3B. I don't think 4 arm is enough to get a rating at 3B, but his 4 range wouldn't be the worst in the league (though the 4 error probably would be worst at 3B); and of course there is the whole 'players being worse than absolute garbage when playing a position for the first time' thing in OOTP. Kinda like how Freddie Freeman was a complete disaster at 3B, tripping all over himself (-0.6 UZR/150 would have put him just behind Kris Bryant and Justin Turner) and committing tons of errors (he had all of 1 in 16 games).

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